Sunday, September 20, 2009
Give Up your US Citizenship for Tax Reasons? Legally You're Never allowed Back-Not even to visit
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Naturally, the feds want to raise as much money as they can. So, like bank robbers, they go where the money is – to the “rich.”
Steve Sjuggerud tells us what has happened back at home…in Maryland.
“The state of Maryland couldn’t balance its budget last year. So the state decided the right way to raise tax dollars was to fleece the millionaires… Maryland state politicians created a ‘millionaire’ tax bracket.
“Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley of course expected tax receipts to go up. He said Maryland’s 3,000 millionaires were ‘willing to pay their fair share.’ The Baltimore Sun said the rich would ‘grin and bear it.’
“But the opposite happened…
“Instead of 3,000 Maryland millionaires filing taxes in April 2009, only 2,000 did. According to The Wall Street Journal: ‘Instead of the state coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year – even at higher rates.’
“A friend of mine lives here in Florida. He is not an American citizen. He pays US taxes while he lives here. But under the threat of higher national income taxes, he is contemplating giving up his green card and moving elsewhere.
“When Maryland’s governor raises taxes, Maryland residents leave and government income goes down.
“When the nation’s President raises income taxes, foreigners like my friend leave and government income goes down.
“Unfortunately, YOU CAN’T LEAVE.
“Wait a minute. This is America, land of the free, right?
“Not so fast… The US government will track US citizens everywhere to get tax money. If you leave to work in another country, you still pay US income taxes. America and North Korea are the only countries that tax you on your worldwide income.
“If it gets bad enough, you can just give up your citizenship, right? Nope, you can’t do that either. At least, you can’t do it without paying a potentially massive ‘exit tax.’
“The exit tax acts like an estate tax. If you want to give up your citizenship, you have to give up nearly half your wealth above a certain level. The Economist magazine calls it ‘America’s Berlin Wall.’ Nice, eh?
“Want some more nice? Once you’re gone, you’re not legally allowed to come back and visit family and friends. Yes, if the government decides you have renounced citizenship for tax purposes, a federal law prohibits you from entering the country ever again. (You can look up the rule under 8 USC 1182(a)(10)(E).)
“You can escape states with oppressive taxes. But ‘escaping’ the US – the land of the free – is much more difficult. And you can bet it won’t get any easier as the government needs more and more of your income to pay its bills.”
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Someone has to pay for those who dont want to work. All that money goes to credit, welfare and unemployment checks, if responsible americans would just do their part , this would not be an issue, no such thing as a free lunch.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the portion that goes to Government officials pissing it away on their unlimited sick day, $3000.00 office chairs and all their other wasted expenses.
DeleteThe reason you must pay taxes even if you leave is that you are a piece of property, owned by the banksters regardless of where you plant your feet.
ReplyDeleteAny US citizen that believes he is a free man is deluded.
The red numbers and letters on the back of your birth certificate and SS are to track you as an asset of the corporation throughout your life. The USA is a giant corporation, nothing more, nothing less. We have the same morals of a greedy corporation. A President, Vice President, Treasurer, etc, of the corporation.
You are an asset whether rich or poor. Just a preferred vs a common stock asset. The true owners of the corporation are the Zionist global banksters.
Our President and Congress answer to, and are controlled by, the owners of this corporation. What you want or what you vote for is meaningless.
The banksters are now in the process of liquidating the USA as a corporate entity. They will vampire away anything of value.
ReplyDeleteOne huge corporation out buying up smaller ones. They want to be more efficient and centralize their power and control.
A centralized global corporation is preferred over what they have now. One currency, one religion (that will combine all the current fakes ones together), one military, one leader. The leader will be just a figurehead of course, much like our US President is now. We have an Oligarchy, not a Republic.
In the new gigantic corporation you are then a tiny controlled minion in a sea of stamped and numbered drones. There are no personal freedoms. Your purpose is to comply and produce. You are now a member of a hive-like mentality. No personal opinions contrary to the state will be allowed.
All are working for the same central corporation. The USA was simply bought out and dissolved. Unfortunately for ex US citizen/assets, our standard of living now has nosed dived because the new central corporation treats all minions the same.
Within the next five years the USA will no longer exist. It will indeed come that fast. Walmart vs the corner store; and we are the corner store.
I smell a revolution at the corner store. NEVER underestimate the power of the minions, it's happened before and it is about to happen again, even the peasants have thier breaking point at it is at a crucial point now.
ReplyDelete1:10 the only thing I smell is the wind behind the taco stand. The US needs to find and make the "illegals" pay taxes or kick em out.
ReplyDelete1:10 NOBODY should pay taxes. The illegals have it right, perhaps we should follow them?
ReplyDelete1:29 you are trying to divide us along national lines. It's a tired and transparent trick and I hope the people here don't fall for it.
ReplyDelete2:37 thats college talk- a pipe dream, they will find you, they give more freedom to illegals then american tax payers, its nuts. and I am not young enough to protest, I just give up , and play by the rules. work, pay taxes etc. it is what it is, nothing changes, a year from now it will be the same conversation hopefully by 2012 a libertarian will get in there and really change things.
ReplyDeleteI will never see the $150,000+ I put in SS (per my statement). If I had enough $$, I would be out of here in a NY second.
ReplyDeleteHello Uruguay!
Good bye Homeland Security!
2:41 I dont understand what you are saying but all I know is "illegals" are costing the american tax payers billions, I work and dont want my hard earned cash going to people who dont follow the rules, its annoying and has me ranting on blogs. I cant take it anymore.
ReplyDeleteGreat article.
ReplyDeleteYou guys have to remember one thing - your government has no money - thats right, there is no "government money". Its all money that they have to steal through "taxation".
Illegals are a smokescreen to stop you focussing on the real issue - the theft of your lives by the government.
smokescreen or not. Every healthy US individual can find a job and pay their taxes. I would prefer a flat tax, but its just a pipe dream. All I know is I have to work and get the bills payed, its personal resposibility, and thats the bottom line.
ReplyDelete3:32 you are a shill. perhaps you should go back to trolling msnbc and faux news websites.
ReplyDeletePay your taxes to support the WAR MACHINE.
ReplyDeleteForget health care and social security.
'Defense' accounts for 90% of all Government spending.
For 'Defense' , it's mighty OFFENSIVE for the past 50 years.
Support the WAR MACHINE with YOUR dollars, your BLOOD, your SWEAT, and if you disagree with the WAR MACHINE, with your TEARS.
yes, all of the $7/hr jobs the illegals have will make this country very strong. all of the decent jobs that have been exported will be unavailable to americans. go back to editing your .gov website 4:27
ReplyDeletebottom line is the middle class need to keep paying yet even more taxes for an even bigger, bloatier government ... the bottom line of a true shill.
ReplyDeleteyour bottom line is that middle class citizens need to pay ever more taxes creating an even bigger, bloated government. nice bottom line. at what point does the parasite kill the host? if you disagree you are a shill. bottom line is you a camp fema.
ReplyDelete4:42, 4:47, I agree with you both but what is the solution? everyone has to pay taxes if they work. I dont want to but I do. My insurance is high because of the have nots, if you can resolve the tax issues so we dont have to pay I am on your team , but right now workers have no choice, those that have to support families can not live in a fantasy world. and take risks with the law.
ReplyDeleteyou a camp fema, dawg.
ReplyDeletewe can agree to disagree, but props to those that do pay taxes, they are your meal ticket, for the time being.and you gotta admit thats pretty chill.good luck and good nite.peace.
ReplyDeleteOne of the first comments said it was the Zionist bankers who run this thing. No, it is not the Zionist bankers who run this thing...it's so easy to blame the Zionists but as much as some refuse to believe, the Zionists are not at fault.
ReplyDeleteWhat we have here is mass conformity and it is their fault the world is in such piss poor condition. Those who sold out in exchange for some worldly provision, it is YOUR fault the world is about to fall apart entirely. Blaming Zionists, Germans, Govts or anyone else is just BS!
So many people in this world have sold their souls or given them up in exchange to get a good job, to be popular ETC. It is those conformists fault for what is happening in America today. The masses here are total conformists, dead eyes and dumbed down. They sold their souls for the American dream and now the reaper is here for his pound of flesh.
This country is gone. There is ZERO hope of turning America around. The same conformists who sold the Republic out are not going to switch sides and fight to win the country back. They will NOT go against the hand that feeds him.
Congradulations conformists, you have screwed us all!
Sure, blame the people 6:15.
ReplyDeleteIgnore those who made the rules with the intention of raping society. Fractional reserve banking is fraud. The US has been bankrupt since the Great Depression, and the banksters have been shaping society as they please, because they control the money, and all else flows from that.
First it's the illegals' fault, now it's the middle class's fault. Blame the debt slaves who only want to get by. Pull the other one, it has bells on it. Down with the banksters and their new world order. Point the finger where it deserves to be pointed - at the NWO who planned this mess from the start, decades in advance.
There is hope! I saw a story at http://www.econochristian.com/banking/2009/09/20/germany-calls-for-end-to-financial-globalization/
ReplyDeleteLooks like countries are breaking away from the globalization model!
7:41 you are absolutely correct. To be clear, yes it is the Global Zionist Bankster NWO Oligarchs. It isn't the illegal aliens, and its not OUR fault we have been lied to, manipulated, and deceive either.
ReplyDeleteYes, Americans are apathetic sheep, but they were made that way via the manipulations of our owners.
Unfortunately 95% of Americans have no clue at all of what is coming and who is behind it.
In the financial panic of 1865, people stormed the banks, pulled the bankers out of their offices and hung them in the streets! They KNEW who was out to make their life miserable and rob them blind.
Not us. We not only don't put up a fight. We allow them complete control of our government and media.
Banksters do not fear the law - as they ARE the law. They make the law. They pay the salaries of law enforcers and soldiers to uphold their laws.
ReplyDeleteSo what do Banksters fear?
1) Demand for commodity-based currency (i.e. ammunition, seeds/grain, precious metals, whiskey)
2) Organized mass withdraw of cash from banks.
3) Early liquidation of financial paper from brokerage houses (401K, Pension funds).
4) Private Cameras and Photographers
5) Mass revelation about Revelations
6) The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution
7) US Constitution - Article 1 Section 8: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures (the Bankster "FED" stole this power from Congress in 1913)
These fears are your weapons against this financial tyranny and slavery. Rise up!!!
Actually, the best option is to live outside the United States for 330 days of every calendar year to qualify for about $85k in tax exemption. Have lived outside the US for almost five years, make less than the exemption and so pay little to no tax.
ReplyDeleteThe USA is the only country that reaches out beyond its borders for income tax. The only one. That tells you something right there.
ReplyDeleteYo quero taco bell
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ReplyDeleteSeptember 20, 2009 12:47 PM, nice fantasy.
ReplyDeleteIf you think the whole problem is illegals not working and paying taxes, you my friend are a fool. Mexicans do all the work you don't want to and they get paid pennies on the dollar to do it. But, let me get this right, you think ALL OF THAT GREAT WEALTH they are stealing from the poor white honest american white collar worker is being diverted and causing them suffering? How funny! And if you say they strain the medical system, are they not at least entitled to the bare minimum of health in order to keep your McMAnsion clean and your multiple SUV's vacuumed while you sit in the comfort of your home whining about what is wrong with the world is the Mexicans?
ReplyDelete10:05- nobody saying that, but when "americans" are complaining there are no jobs they are delusional.there are plenty, they just have to suck it up and start from scratch, and if there really are NO JOBS, yes The ILLEGALS must go home, so the AMERICANS can have their jobs. ANd if "americans" cant get health care because a facility is overpopulated, the ILLEGALS must go home. etc etc.
ReplyDeleteYou are the delusional one! Pay attention to the news buddy! Real unemployment closer to 20-25%! Where is your brain, hiding under a rock?
ReplyDelete8:56, clearly you are the people you warn us about. when the "illegals" are packing up and moving out, then I will worry that there are no jobs, right now I still see them cutting lawns, cleaning houses, etc etc. what cant compete in that market.?too hard?waahhhh.pay your bills.
ReplyDeleteunamerican
ReplyDelete=debt
8:56, just admit it you hate america, and dont pay your bills, because you dont care what happens to the country. how patriotic of you.
ReplyDeleteI diasgree as to where most of the money goes. Most of the money goes to overpaid laywers, accountants, doctors, government workers, and defense contractors. The problem with our system is a lack of effciency. If fact, old age, unemployment, and disability benefits (what some people like to misguide others by labeling as "welfare") are probably one of the most efficient parts of the government. As an example of our inefficiency, for what our govenment spends on health care, our country can only conver the old, very poor, and disabled, but other countries, such as the U.K. can use this same amount of money (as a percentage of GDP) to cover their entire country. Where does the money go? Doctors, lawyers, accountants, private company profits, government workers, and all the other special interest groups. Our country has been in decline (I regret to say) for quite some time now thanks to all the special interest plundering.
ReplyDeleteamerica is infact a corporation of the united states of america but use to be for america, as in an entity, a corporation. When our natural american citizens, note i said natural not federal, because federal citizens according to the 14 amendment under the corporation as in the businees context of united states are federal citizens, and what that means is that you are paying the debt of united corporate states because you are under their jurisdiction by accepting to be a federal citizen, even though you might not know about there are ways to separate yourself and once again become free a natural citizen look up keywords and research corporate united states, or uniform commercial code ...
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