Sunday, January 17, 2010

The Recession Is Over, the Economic Depression Just Beginning

In late 2009, former Merrill Lynch economist, now with the Canadian firm, Gluskin Sheff, said the following:

"The credit collapse and the accompanying deflation and overcapacity are going to drive the economy and financial markets in 2010. We have said this repeatedly that this recession is really a depression because the (post-WW II) recessions were merely small backward steps in an inventory cycle but in the context of expanding credit. Whereas now, we are in a prolonged period of credit contraction, especially as it relates to households and small businesses."

Summarizing his 2010 outlook, Rosenberg highlighted asset deflation and credit contraction imploding "the largest balance sheet in the world - the US household sector" in the amount of "an epic $12 trillion of lost net worth, a degree of trauma we have never seen before," even after the equity bear market rally and "tenuous" housing recovery likely to be short-lived and illusory with a true bottom many months away.

As a result, consumer spending will be severely impacted. "Frugality is the new fashion and likely to stay that way for years," highlighting a secular shift toward prudence and conservatism because households are traumatized, tapped out, and mindful of a bleak outlook. It shows in new consumer credit data, contracting $17.5 billion in November, the largest monthly amount since 1943 record keeping began.

Surprisingly, only people over age 55 have experienced job growth. All others have lost jobs, can't get them, and for youths the "unemployment crisis (is) of epic proportions." In addition, there's a record number of Americans out of work for longer than six months, in part because the "aging but not aged" aren't retiring, and those who did are coming back, of necessity, to make up for wealth lost.

Rosenberg stresses that for a sustainable recovery to begin, the ratio of household credit to personal disposable income must revert to the mean and reach an excess in the opposite direction. In the 1950s, it was 30%. Today its 125%, down from the late 2007 139% peak, with a long way to go taking years, and when it's over, another $7 trillion in household credit will have to be extinguished.
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26 comments:

  1. We also have the population surge of the biggest consumers going into a less consuming age starting in 2010 besides that stuff. I kind of see the deflationary depression scenario at first also because to have real high inflation you need too many dollars chasing a limited number of goods which isnt the case and wont be for a while. We are going to get their rigged positive GDP numbers until about the 4th quarter of 2010 and then we will go negative and enter a depression.

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  2. Great, as a 53 year old that just lost a $100k/yr job I only have to wait until 55 to get back to work. I'm thrilled.

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  3. The government is purposely throwing our nation into a depression. That way they can have more control over the people. They want us to be dependent on them for our basic needs to stay alive. That way they can look like they are so wonderful. I can hear it now "look what Obama's done for me. He gave me food and everything else I need. He is so wonderful."

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  4. Wow, living in your home never to leave. Sounds like you are already dead 12:51.

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  5. This report is obvious conspiracy theory, as I just heard on Fox the recession is over and unemployment is going up. Stock market is way up and everything is looking good.

    Personally, when I go back to work tomorrow at my Walmart job, I am going to buy me a new 84" flat screen TV and a new wardrobe (Walmart has the best prices on big and tall sizes), things I've been holding off buying till the recession is over. Besides that, I still have another $4K credit on my credit card. This way, I will be helping the economy by spending, as the CNN financial chick said the other day. I am a true American helping out.

    Time for me to go back to topping off my 24 pack and don't forget to Support our Troops fighting for freedom.

    Remember, they hate us for our freedom!

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  6. 1:22
    If you think education is expensive ....

    Try ignorance ..........................

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  7. 111 we leave our home everyday, but if it comes to it, we dont have to, sorry you have no reading comprehension.

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  8. with the job losses, home foreclosures, homelessness, they are incrementally taking away all rights and slowly we are becoming a police state, look for a false flag soon to take away any and all remaining rights and then the government will starve citizens out one by one.

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  9. That's not what the post says about ignorance.

    there is nothin' bliss about it ----- ever.

    And it is far, far more expensive; measured at any level - than a good education. And all you
    attack dogs ------- down boy!!!

    At the very least an education in this country teaches you to think - sooner or later; you will draw on that to serve you.

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  10. attack dogs, Get Ready to Attack When Provoked!

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  11. But even though more people will be unemployed they will say look GDP went up 5% or so last quarter of 09.. what a joke... when it will crash again by mid year 2010...

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  12. " An economist is a surgeon with an excellent scalpel and a rough-edged lancet, who operates beautifully on the dead and tortures the living" . Nicholas Chamfort (1741-1794)

    This site is a great scifi page. Keep em coming :)

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  13. They want it all for themselves and they are stealing it out from under us as we fight here, dont you get that?

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  14. "They" want all what for themselves ??
    All what???

    You folks who continue to think this way fail to understand that you can only push so hard.

    how do you think this country got started in the first place??

    All the land ???
    Great - who's gonna farm it - you??
    Me??? I don't know a damn thing about it...
    Neither do they.

    all the dairy???
    do you know all about taking care of 500 gurnsey's??
    i don't

    All the Oil patches???
    Can you run a drilling rig??
    A refinery???
    I cannot do either.

    The forests??
    Can you run a sawmill and dry wood for housing
    I can't.

    Individual states including the legislature and governorships??? I doubt it

    County level - commish on down to the clerks
    again I doubt it

    Natural gas - can you run a gas rig??

    I could go On and on and on and on and on and on

    What - you think they'll get it and import people from "cRACKISTAN" or one O them other
    istans.

    get real people - just get real

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  19. This blog is growing like a monster view-wise.

    There are those that would like to see people stay ignorant. It is not in their best interests to have the sheep awaken.

    My guess is that about 2% of the American populace are able to think for themselves. Ironically, the figure matches up with the amount of Americans that own gold bullion.

    It is not a matter of smart vs dumb. It is a matter of successfully deceived or not.

    The banksters are so greedy that they don't want to even let the 2% squeak through.

    The 98% are done, finished; they will die and starve away in their delusion.

    Be within that 2% of the populace that is somewhat enlightened.

    Understand that nearly everything around you is a lie, a strategized manipulation. It gets easily over time to dismiss authority figures and the mainstream group think and to see a recognize truth in spite of engrained bias.

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  20. Even with the collapse of Zimbabwe and Argentina there were 2% that saw it coming. 2% that prepared and did very well.

    Be a member of the 2% club.

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  21. I'm a "Prepper." You know the whole guns/silver/food/water shabingo BUT as time passes and I notice people's reaction to all sorts of weirdness and how gulliable they seem almost tamed...I have come to the conclusion that we will go the way of Argentina not Mad Max...Meaning people will bitch/moan/complain/gripe but not do anything...A good 90% will act surprised and just be quiet and take it as crime rises/benefits disappear and chaos slowly takes over.

    A few will make the news with rants but be lumped in with militia-type or kooks...Best way it seems to survive is just to prep and be quiet about it.

    Look at the housing bubble...I had HUGE ARGUEMENTS about with what's happening 6 years ago...None of the people I argued with remember that...They remember "KNOWING."

    Americans love to fool themselves because they can't oe don't want to believe that they aren't the "hard working" "honest" "brave" "freedom loving" people or that their government has fooled them.

    Sometimes we just have to let people go and quietly get ready...Sad really but f*ck it...I'll see crazy things that most people never thought would happen...I'll live in "interesting times" as the Chinese curse goes...So I might as well pop the popcorn and get my guns and cold beer ready for the show.

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  22. let stupid sheep be stupid sheep.
    sheep is sheep shall for ever be sheep.

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  23. "My guess is that about 2% of the American populace are able to think for themselves. Ironically, the figure matches up with the amount of Americans that own gold bullion."

    The dumbest piece of reasoning so far this year.

    Go read my reply on The Coming Fury of an Angry America. It probably applies to you.

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  24. Also go look up the word irony.

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  25. I knew the world was going to hell the day I was born. Born in a bunker between world wars.

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