Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Renouncing American Citizenship


Let's be clear about something. A person who decides to give up his US citizenship is not guilty of disloyalty to America; quite the opposite. He could very well be more loyal to American principles than the regime is willing to tolerate.
It also does not mean that he is giving up hope for liberty; he may have great hope for liberty, in a different way and in a different place.
In any case, the rise of emigration, expatriation, and citizenship renunciation is a trend that is not going away. It is rising and will get more significant. In some ways, it is completely expected. When regimes over-control, over-tax, over-regulate, they gnaw at the innate sense of the right to be free. When this gets worse and worse, people tend to look around for better environments.
We've all known people who talk about it openly. It is becoming cocktail conversation, the once-unthinkable now standard fare. It's not just an impression. State Department records show that 502 people gave up citizenship in just the last quarter of 2009. That is more than twice the total for 2008. That might not seem like a lot but what stands out here is the trend line, which is soaring. I also hear reports of year-long bureaucratic delays in approval, and, of course, plenty of people leave without permission.
The driving factors here are not cultural or social; they are economic. The US government is making it ever more difficult for Americans living abroad, taxing them wherever the bureaucrats can find them. The government makes it very difficult even to hold a bank account in the US unless the account holder can point to a US residency (thanks to the Patriot Act). And when the government finds a reporting error on income earned overseas, it can charge a 50% penalty.
Even when a person gives up US citizenship, and establishes citizenship with a freer country, the US government can still haunt him with continuing tax obligations and demands for military service. There is, at the least, a vast exit penalty. Any regime that would do things like this inspires people to want to stay at arm's length.
Far more frightening is the sense that financial calamity is around the corner. A look at the data seems to suggest that. Vast reserves are sitting in the banking system, waiting to be unleashed to create what could be total destruction of the dollar. The deficit is rising so fast that it is hard to chart.
The jobs situation is terrible, especially for young people (and adults often make decisions based on what is best for their kids' future). Personal income is falling and falling. Investment is not recovering after its cliff dive in 2009. The social welfare state is broke. Private debt is rising even though lending has not restarted.
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33 comments:

  1. This country has turned into one big S$%T Heap so why not leave if you can. It's time for a tax revolt as voting is a waste of time.

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  2. I agree. Time to scat...

    This oppressive regime has become intolerable.

    The taxes coming down on businesses are going to be astounding... If you have a business an you are reading this you better move your company to another one because the financial reforms are YET another tax scheme for the corrupt oligarchs.

    I guarantee you that business is going to flee the US faster than you can say: "Tax and Spend Liberals"

    As for the little people they can expect more gestapo actions and force compliance. Shock troops will descend on individuals and astoundingly confiscate everything they have at will for the state.

    If the president(notice I said president and not congress) signs a law that your food hoarding will be confiscated for the good of the state, then brothers and sisters get ready to starve and die for the good of the state cause the gestapo will be fierce and relentless.

    Good night Amerika, you sleep walked into hell and denied it every step of the way so now live and enjoy your descision!!

    But never mind this scary comment go on and watch your American Idol and forget the whole thing....

    Until swat shock troops swoop down and breaks your door down that is... :)

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  3. I would be out of here in a NY minute if I could.

    I have a country I would like to move, in SA, that I have researched thoroughly. Where one can live at a fraction of the cost here and maintain a similar lifestyle. Unfortunately, I do not have the funds. I figure for single me, If I had $100,000, I would be on my way. I don't.

    So I stay and live amongst the sheeple goons who seem to live in some type of fantasy world. It's sickening here in the good ole usofa.

    How did I get here? I'm caught in a trap, and I can't get out.

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  4. You can thank Oprah Winfrey for our commander and thief. Ya, we are all on this ship of fools together floating down shit creek without a paddle.

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  5. The term U.S. citizen didn't come into use until the 14th amendment. Before that everyone referred to themselves as an American, or perhaps a Wisconsinite (as an example for my state). These classifications still exist on the law books, and you'd be known as an American national or state national. In fact if you look at your passport it says something like "Please admit this United States citizen/national...".

    The United States is a federal corporation, and its jurisdiction is D.C. and U.S. territories such as Puerto Rico. If you say you're a U.S. citizen, you can reside in one of the several states, but be legally domiciled in D.C. for jurisdictional purposes.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html
    (15) “United States” means—
    (A) a Federal corporation;

    On other thing, in the IRS forms, a state national is also referred to as a non-resident alien. It means you live in one of the several states (aka Wisconsin) and are outside federal/corporate jurisdiction.

    sedm and famguardian have more info.

    http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Citizenship/WhyANational.pdf

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  6. 9:21-Yea, yea, yea..I have studied all that plus lots more, and it has helped me how? A huge majority of sheeple citizens don't care about anything about what is really going on, they care about who is on american idle tonight or who will win the basketball game. They are lost sheep and they have lost their way (& their minds).

    Revolution? Ha Ha, the sheeple will do anything their tv's tell them to, and believe anything their tv's tell them. Revolution is not in the script. After all, we have "real change" now, don't we?

    There is little hope for us living in reality in this country, this is why I would leave if I could....

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  7. Two years ago I was reading about how Iceland had the happiest population in the world and thought it would be best to move to Iceland before Obama got elected. Though then in 2008 everyone laughed when I said, "I gauruntee he will get in - it is already decided", everyone was laughing and saying it was all a media fascination that he'd become elected. Couldn't happen.

    Time after that and just a while back when he was getting Health Care voted through and everyone laughed saying, "He can't get the votes", and I said, "I actually say Sean Hannity is in denial and that shit will go through without incident".

    Well, my fortune was that I never went to Iceland. Thank God huh?

    Our unfortune is that this world is becoming a whirlwind of chaos and the ability to predict anything is absolute null. We are merging into the New World which will shatter all logic and "reality" putting us into a Void state (Abyss) which will mean our certainty levels will be used by idiots only, which is the major chunk of the 7 billion population (6 billion who are above 5 years of age).

    Time to empty your cups and re-learn reality because things will only appear to be normal by those who are suppressing their fear. "These aren't the End Times people!" Good luck guy, I'm not quite sure what future you're imagining or investing in but like all other thought-forms, it has no basis in reality.

    I hope you guys can see in the dark, most can't...

    Sincerely, A Fucking Whacko

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  8. Please name one country that is not in the same boat we are. Where are you going to move to? Because of my wife being from Honduras, we could go there and live like kings and queens with a $1,000 monthly income. The problem is the country is more corrupt now than ever before.

    I agree that Federal Laws only apply to those living in US territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands and DC, but try telling that to an FBI agent as he arrests your ass inside your home state where they truly have no jurisdiction.

    Never for get what follows:

    ...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,...


    Yea folks, we have the Right to abolish this current, out of control, traitorous government.

    Too bad the Founding Fathers didn't bother to tell us HOW to do it, outside of armed conflict.

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  9. Sorry but south america has the good kinda corruption.. America has the NASTY DIRTY SKANKY kind of corruption. I wanna get the F! out of america and i will. But heres 2 ways of looking at it... if u lived in wisconsin in the woods. and u sold chopped wood for a living... life could be peaceful, serene, beautiful, calm, low stress. as long as u chose to read about corrupt feds ur going to fear them.. I am sorry but the fed doesnt have the time to go hassle ur ass in the woods if ur not creating a commotion.. u could move in today and live for another 50 years without being bothered by another soul. u could do the same by going to south america. i think south america would just be more fun.. god the last thing i would want to do is go live near a bunch of dumb fat drunk breeding women in wisconsin. but rather have some fun with a nice young beautiful brazilian. cost of living is way lower. standard are rising. life is done better elsewhere.. oh and in south america i will grow myself a decent small crop of cannabis.. life is good. im going to south america. i am saving up right now. i will be gone within 1 year.. i hope i have time.

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  10. 9:37...Actually Iceland is still the place to go...Honest good people, resources, beautiful women, very good medical/education and work ethics.

    Thing is it's out of credit so people will resort to what they did before...Fish and be merchants to the very small towns...Life is cold and a lil hard I bet but have you seen the women? :P

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  11. I would think that places the Oligarchs have already plundered like Iceland, Argentina, Greece would be a good choice.

    South America would be nice.

    There is zero reason to stick around here and get squashed if you can get out.

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  12. Listen folks! My wife and I have been living abroad for over 4 years now. We were just like you, wondering if we could do it and how we would survive. Well we took the plunge and got our feet wet. Now we are sitting back watching America implode. I can tell you from experience that FREE HOUSING IS A REALITY OVERSEAS. If you truly want to learn from someone who has done it contact me. Check out my blog. www.alteredstatesofamerika.blogspot.com

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  13. You leave and you're a deserter.

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  14. Hahaha 12:23 - that is such an ignorant statement. Thanks for the laugh.

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  15. 12:15 - there isn't much information there. Is it a new blog? Great idea for a blog btw. Where did you relocate to? More info?

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  16. In a 2006 speech in PDX, President Fox said in the next 4-5 years the collapse of the USA would be so traumatic that US citizens will be clammering to get into Mexico, not the other way around.

    I am convinced that is why the banker media makes out Mexico as hell on Earth. They want us sheep right here where we are contained and enslaved.

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  17. Yes everybody is going to leave America,Detroit is already depopulating,its turning to grass land,and wild animals aremoving back in.

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  18. @1:56 I never knew the wild animals left?

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  19. WHAT ABOUT PANAMA??? ANYBODY?

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  20. My wife is from Argentina and it's very easy to open a family business there and thrive. This is because giant corporations aren't on every street corner (yet). The only think that has stopped us is Argentina's instability. Her family all has businesses down there and live very well.

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  21. Sure, I'm gonna go to Mexico, the land of the drug lords and cut off heads, rolling freely in the streets.

    I'm sure it would be a wonderful place after we invade, kill everything that moves and then start over with Constitution in hand...

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  22. More overblown propaganda 3:26.

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  23. Have a brother in Equador thats where i am headed

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  24. This isn't a free country it is a Clandestine empire run by Oligarch bankers. Anyone who would think they are leaving anything special are misguided. This place stinks.

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  25. EQAUADOR??? TELL ME MORE,PLEASE.

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  26. Gringos in Paradise is also a great read.

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  27. Most authors would agree the Panama is the best choice for most people wanting to escape the Empire.

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  28. This says it all:

    "Far more frightening is the sense that financial calamity is around the corner. A look at the data seems to suggest that. Vast reserves are sitting in the banking system, waiting to be unleashed to create what could be total destruction of the dollar. The deficit is rising so fast that it is hard to chart."

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  29. Under ‘free trade” capital is free to move anywhere in the world
    Labor and the worls poor people are not .
    Most americans are descended from economic refugees from European capitalism or imported slave labor for capital.
    Only those that have accumulated wealth in America that are rich enough to afford it are free to leave America to seek out survival in other countries.As relatively wealthy economic refugees from bankrupt U.S. capitalism.
    They think having wealth and as Americans with wealth they have the right to do so.
    Even to buy a tax dodging dual citizenship of other countries .
    The rest of the Americans can camp out in tents on the sidewalk begging and hoping for jobs .
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  30. What's with that silly chart? Dow at 500? Puh please

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  31. 7:24

    In my lifetime the Dow went from 890 to a top of 14000, so why wouldnt it be possible for it to go back down to 700/800?

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  32. More than possible. It will pass 700 on the way down like a brick tossed off a roof.

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  33. As the country is looted by the rich after the financial coup
    Fearful little people begin to look for a way out.
    The looters as in the USSR can move most anywhere with their loot.
    But they have two favourite countries.
    One of them is here.

    As Mikhail Gorbachev once said: 'One day all you will see in the centre of London is Russians - they are buying up entire blocks.'
    Some millionaires, like Boris Berezovsky - once a powerful Kremlin insider - fled 'politically motivated' prosecution by strongman prime minister Vladimir Putin and gained asylum in Britain.
    Roman Abramovich - who maintains his close links to Putin - came quietly to base his business in Britain before becoming the most famous oligarch of all by buying Chelsea Football Club. He held his second place in the latest Sunday Times Rich List, with a fortune of £7.4billion.

    Many oligarchs keep homes in Britain - among them Arsenal shareholder Alisher Usmanov and Oleg Deripaska, the metals king famous for sparking political controversy in Britain by entertaining both Lord Mandelson and George Osborne on his luxury yacht.

    The family of Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov - whose wife is Russia's wealthiest businesswoman - also keep a London bolt hole.

    There are also supermodels - notably Natalia Vodianova, who is married to English aristocrat Justin Portman - and sporting millionaires like Arsenal's Andrey Arshavin, who has made his own outspoken criticism of Gordon Brown's tax changes,


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1268954/Russian-oligarchs-preparing-flee-Britain-Labours-tax-policies.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0mTcIsJQs

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