Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Faber: All Of Us Will Be Doomed


  • Central banks will never tighten monetary policy again, merely print, print, print
  • Bubbles used to be concentrated in 1 sector or region in the 19th century, but off of the gold standard this concentration has ended
  • “The lifetime achievement of Greenspan and Bernanke is really that they created a bubble in everything…everywhere.”
  • “Central banks love to see asset prices go up,” and their policy reflects their desperation to perpetuate this
  • US housing bubble that Greenspan could not spot (even though he has recently spotted bubbles in Asia) stands in stark contrast to that of Hong Kong in 1997, where prices fell by 70%, yet none of the major developers went bankrupt; this was a result of a system not built on excessive debt like that of the US
  • “You have to ask what they were smoking at the Federal Reserve,” during the housing bubble, as prices were increasing by 18% annually when interest rates started to steadily rise in 2004
  • Over the last couple of years, when the gross increase in public debt has exceeded the gross decrease in private debt, markets have risen, whereas when private debt growth has outpaced public debt growth, markets have tanked
  • The next 3-5 years will be highly volatile

    • Americans must re-think what constitutes a safe asset; in a “traditional” period, one would generally rank from most to least safe assets: cash, Treasuries, corporate bonds, equities, commodities
    • However, last year Economist Gregory Mankiw articulated the position which according to Faber essentially echoes that of Fed #2 Janet Yellen and pervades much of the Fed generally, that “The problem is that people are saving money instead of spending, and we have to get the bastards spending to keep the economy going,” so the key is to inflate the money supply at something like 6% per annum
    • Thus, Faber says “As far as I’m concerned, the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates at 0, precisely 0…in real terms”
    • As such, cash and longterm bonds will be a bad place to hold one’s money; equities are an avenue to preserve wealth (but this is a risky proposition, given the effects of rampant currency depreciation); precious metals are a sound place for wealth preservation
    • As for the US being the most important economy for the world, there is a sea change going on right now; recently car sales in emerging economies (such as Brazil, China) are outpacing those of the US, Europe and Japan; oil consumption in emerging markets is increasing, while in the developed world it is contracting; the whole world does not depend on American consumption anymore – 60% of total exports are now going to the emerging world when one includes E. Europe; the US is still a large economy but it is not growing, while the growth in the emerging world is and will continue to be strong

17 comments:

  1. As long as they can keep giving the stock market a "pop", like Friday and Tuesday, they'll be able to keep a lot of people fooled! It won't be until these people wake up that things will get really bad.

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  2. This guy must be a fool to believe there are emerging countries in the third world like Brazil. I love that, he thinks China is rising economically. While the old economic power houses are crumbling there will be absolutely no rise in lesser countries but a further decay. Perhaps an instant death.

    400 million Africans will die if Americans can not supply food through donations. Emerging countries... HA!

    This guy like all other economic theorists in the stage now reveals he can not be given credibility but should be viewed critically.

    There is absolutely no one right now who can comprehend fully what is happening. The world is so unstable and unpredictable that even as one puts in several variables in a model used to pin point an event or likelihood, there is so much freaking data out there to include which is a mix of data that is visible, intangible, practical, too large to calculate and synthesize, and unknown. Anyone still listening to people like this, even though they are more accurate than what you'll get on the television is still a far ways behind the new and vital Truth.

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  3. The new and vital truth is we are doomed.

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  4. 10:28 what????

    Africans will die....
    Are you kidding?
    If the Occident (USA and Europe) collapse, Africa will breathe again at least.
    It will stop the destruction and pollution by our oil companies (research what Exxon and shell did in Nigeria), gold and diamonds mining companies..
    Stop the flow of money and weapons to the dictators and militias our corporations support in order to do what the fuck we want in their countries.
    It's going to be the end of Hell for Africa.
    A Miracle.

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  5. Until the 'welfare state' or those who are bought out into the guv system of 'survival' then we will never see a collapse. How can things collapse when there is a 50 percent increase in food stamps in under a 2 year period. It is called crowd control or keeping the sheeple in a hypnotic daze while the last vestiges of America is slated for destruction, until they have fleeced every last bit they can, then there will be no restoration of our Republic. A hungry belly makes for an angry mob.
    777

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  6. I seriously think they (Those in power) can keep this charade up for a year or two more...Everytime I think they're done and that I better get my guns ready somehow they pull the rabbit out of the hat.

    I KNOW the emperor has no clothing but the world still wants to believe he does...As long as they hide from the truth and keep a fake smile on then the fake reality of this matrix that we call life becomes truth.

    Problem is if someone somewhere says "Hey this is all bullshit...I'm NOT going to accept dollars because they're worthless."

    Then it all changes...At this point we're playing musical chairs and the last guy who isn't fast enough to get himself some safety will end up on f*cked.

    Honestly I hope it goes on awhile more since I'm not prepared as well as I should yet.

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  7. 1:53,

    I don't know for sure about the Africa thing I stated, it would either be they are doomed or they will be untouched.

    If it is true that we screwed them, the fact remains that they will still be terrorized by their own people. The Nigerian 419 scammers are just one little example of how terrible of condition they are in over there, their own people hold them hostage.

    With that I know there definitely is no emerging third world countries as the once wealthy countries decay - the whole world (in the national/economic sense) is Spongebob and Patrick gasping for oxygen as they are no longer in water.

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  8. 10:28 - I have some friends from Brazil - trust me, it IS an emerging market, and reports bear it out.

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  9. Yep, I agree about Brazil...it is an emerging market. That is correct.

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  10. It's the end of the world as we know it!

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  11. I just sold some substantial investments in Brazilian oil and put the money in a very conservative location. I will lose money even at that over the next coming months. When the market bottoms out at 3000 to 5000 I will go back to Brazilian oil etc. I have plenty of years left before retirement.

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  12. Africa. Yes it has been pummeled by Western thieves. It will only take 60 days of food donations gone to annihilate the already starving millions. Those that are left will be tortured by the gangs who will be no less than highwaymen. South Africa as well as a few other healthy countries in Africa will survive fine.

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  13. The forecast of World War 3 turns my guts into knots. I wish I could take my wife and leave the city. I would like to live in a smaller community or in the country close by the homes of established farmers. It is going to get intense over the next 20 years. My preference would be to establish a commune of my gun toting friends and prepare to feed ourselves and grow pot for medicine. LOL

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  14. She has fallen, the great America has fallen!

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  15. America has impaled itself with it's own sword,Right between the buckcheeks.
    Alan Greenspan had been holding that fatal sword for 15 years.

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