Thursday, October 20, 2011

Tea Party Vs OWS - Who has the Solution?

What is "Occupy Wall Street," all about? Well, it's hard to say (not knowing) ... We need to go by what the demonstrators tell to journalists. It is becoming increasingly difficult for journalists to go there but when they do, they don’t learn much. Many of the demonstrators said in an interview that they really have no idea why they are there. But others do not seem to be against some of the things, such as banks, and prosperity, and capitalism, and (as an intelligent young man summed up) everything. More Here...


  1. OWS is very diverse groups of people. They're from group who wants more social program to group who opposes government spending to group opposes wars to group opposes bailouts, etc. OWS has no cohesive message or idea. OWS is a reflection of fear, anxiety and frustration among the protesters.

    Tea Party is an identifiable group of people who wants less government. They don't want government to intrude into their lives from high tax to picking winners and losers in the mortgage, etc.

    Tea Party and OWS protesters are both taxpayers which they are hooked for trillions of dollars that the government is bailing out private companies. It does not matter which side you are on as long as you are taxpayers you are losers. We are all losers. The bankers are the winners.

  2. The Tea party is a very limited selection of conservative reformists who simply oppose taxes, irresponsible government spending, and seek less government.

    The OWS movement is not as diffuse and directionless as a lot of people, in particular the media, paints it to be. It shares some roots with but is more comprehensive than the Tea Party. That said, it remains open to evolving and changing as well as becoming bigger.

    "Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #OWS is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future.

    Occupy Wall Street is a horizontally organized resistance movement employing the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to restore democracy in America. We use a tool known as a "people's assembly" to facilitate collective decision making in an open, participatory and non-binding manner. We call ours the NYC General Assembly and we welcome people from all colors, genders and beliefs to attend our daily assemblies." -

    On the other end of the spectrum is 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, who accused the movement of being "anti-capitalist" and argued "Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!"

    That is the kind of cynical, apathetic, indoctrinated attitude that separates greedy, callous Americans, who are still asleep, from those who change the situation and create awareness.

  3. 12:52,

    I partly sympathize with your stance. Never would I join OWS due to the nature of its mindless liberal followers, but the Tea Party is flooded with an even larger portion of lemmings.

    Maybe that's ignorant. I watched Glenn Beck from late 2008 until he went off air. So I'm not oblivious to how twisted the modern left is. Though, he could never lure me into the right wing stupor.

    The elites who operate directly (and the leaders of) wallstreet, banks, the progressive movement, Obama, socialist/communist groups, CIA, MI6, and the crippling government departments (Dept of Education, Tsars, Food and Drug, IRS, etc.) are the same behind the Tea Party.

    The Tea Party is merely a sect of the Republican party. They tried to make it look novel and sexy by claiming to be anti-Bush policies as well as anti-democratic policies. The truth is that they are practically concordant with every political disposition of the Bush administration.

    Their heroes are soldiers, cops, corporatists, televangelist kooks, CIA operatives, and fat cats. Ironically, they preach independence but hardly demonstrate their courage when they worship soldiers and police. If you're so brave and free minded, then why do you need fat donut eating peanut brains to protect you!?

    Cops are some of the most abusive, uneducated, and poorly trained guys there are in this country. Many of them are nothing more than criminals in uniforms. I will attest that sheriffs tend to be good people. City cops, on the contrary, are real scum with few exceptions.

    Excuse the example made appearing desultory. Going back all the way to Woodrow Wilson, this country has a notable pattern of alternating between democrats and republicans during a hardship:

    Wilson was a nightmare - in came Harding. Hoover = nightmare - in came FDR. FDR/Truman = nightmare - in comes Eisenhower. Johnson = nightmare - in comes Nixon... Carter... Ronald... Clinton... Bush... Obama... TEA PARTY...

    The Tea Party candidates only impress Americans due to Obama being such a screw up. Reality is that the Tea Party or whatever other Republican nomination is made (which is already selected for us) will install their conservative financial policies once in.

    This will be the start of the offical plutocracy. Nobody without millions of dollars or more will have any chance to do ANYTHING! The reason? Banks and other firms will not be allowed to hand out money. That's what the campaign in these last several years was all about... "Stop the spending... stop the spending! No more handouts..."

    Meanwhile, our nation has been filled with retail outlets, while everything that produces and manufactures has been sent out. Once the dollar is gone Americans will be revealed as the headless pussies we've become.

    21st century Americans are horrible people; fat, lazy, stupid, cold hearted, miserable, habit based, greedy, fearful, sex obsessed, animal abusing - violence glorifiers... we are not the same people as we were in the 80s, 50s, or 1920s.

    Face it people, the country that our grandparents made is dead.

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