Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Bad Driver? In Debt? Proposed NYC Law Would Ban You From Owning a Gun

New York City residents who want to own a gun may soon be denied permits if they are litterbugs, if they are bad drivers, or if they have fallen behind on a few bills.
Under proposed revisions to the police department's handgun, rifle and shotgun permit procedures, the NYPD can reject gun license applicants for a number of reasons, including: 
If they have been arrested or convicted of almost any "violation," in any state; having a "poor driving history"; having been fired for "circumstances that demonstrate lack of good judgment"; having "failed to pay legally required debts"; being deemed to lack "good moral character"; or if any other information demonstrates "other good cause for the denial of the permit."
Critics say many of the restrictions are vague, have nothing to do with one's fitness to own a gun and are unconstitutional.


  1. Someday no one will have guns but the government. The people of NY will do nothing about this. They won't write letters or anything else (vote, protest, etc.). Eventually this will be common around all of America and then other rights will disappear.

    The people of America are fat and lazy. They feel entitled, not wanting to get rid of social security or medicare/medicaid because they paid into it. They feel they shouldn't have to work a job that is manual labor, instead allowing Manuel to do it for him/her.

    Ever think you get what you deserve?

  2. Why do Democrats hate the Constitution? Why do they despise our civil rights? Why does anyone vote for these fascists?

  3. As a former democrat, I can say that, at least for me, I was in favor of getting rid of guns because I felt it would make America safer. I honestly felt that way. I remember watching a Michael Moore film where he confronted K-Mart for selling ammunition. He was mad because they weren't just selling hunting ammo. I remember thinking "Yeah, those corporate assholes are making a profit while selling ammo that will end up killing innocent people".

    Now, fast forward to 2008 when the SHTF and I decided that I ought to buy something to protect myself. A shotgun came to mind, but before I made my purchase, I decided to get on the good old internet and do some research. I found several message boards (like The High Road) which were helpful. After reading a lot of these people's posts (and reading their quotes under their signatures) I slowly began to change my mind.

    Then, my friend got mugged. He never told me, but I heard through someone else. I was like, "I thought that only happened in NYC". So I went back to the web and googled "I was mugged" and "My mugger" and read stories from people about actual muggings. Now by this time, I was not only pro-gun, but pro-carry.

    It took me a while to realize it, but I was wrong. I didn't know what I didn't know. I now realize that passing a law to ban guns will only affect those who obey the law. Criminals will still have guns. They will carry them concealed even where it is posted that they should not.

    No single person changed my mind. No single post on a message board got through. It was night-after-night of research and study that made me go from a liberal in my mid-30's to a conservative in my late 30's. (NOT a Republican. I still can't stand GWB and especially Dick Chaney). Just sayin.

  4. Permits are for subjects. Buy from the private market if you need to. Just carry concealed and shut up.

  5. 7:01 Permits are for subjects. Buy from the private market if you need to. Just carry concealed and shut up.....and JAIL is for people who get caught!

  6. Gun control invariably leads to confiscation then genocide. I wonder what NY's leadership has in mind for the sheep of that city? I don't feel any pity for these people because they have traded liberty for security and now they have neither.

  7. Well 7:30... don't pee your pants. We once had a king that put a price on the heads of those men that declared independence from the crown. Pussies like you would have been called Tories in the day, today we call you Obamabots.

  8. the peasents must be disarmed.
    like will learn to serve your masters well.

    they must take your guns before the riots start.
    the rich must be safe as the slaves serve them well.
    no seatbelt no gun .
    you lack the morale charecter to understand
    when they pull the plug on your benfits food stamps and collapse the dollar.
    you wont be as they say.
    so understanding and will be lacking good charecter to serve your masters.

    so give up your guns your steak knives and all
    thngs of self defense.

    we all know the nyc isnt corrupt and have only the greatest morale self serving best intrest at heart.
    heil to nyc.
    the place is overcrowded any way

  9. 1:45 I'm more than prepared for the coming insurrection. Don't call me a pussy, you have no idea what you're talking about. I was just stating the obvious. You get pulled over or you start to think you're a tough guy with a gun and things happen. People may not have the self control you you do. As you can see, I don't have to resort to stupid name calling to make a point.

  10. The RIGHT of the 2nd ammendment shall not be infringed.

    This subject by far supersedes ALL other subject matter posted here such as willingness to participate in free elections, personal physical fitness, governmental entitlements, political affiliation and personal attack.

    There will never, ever be a repeal on the 2nd and if those in power in Washington ( either side of the aisle) want a revolution - just try to in any way, shape or form ; to take away Americans firearms

    Trust me on this everyone - it will never, never happen


    And I'm not talking about some numb nuts Chicago mayor initiating a " city wide turn in your handgun and recieve $100.00 voucher"

    I'm talking confiscation and I'm here to tell you the private sector ( military retired included ) have more weapons, weapons systems and ballistic knowledge than all branches of our Military


    Where does everbody think we got the best calibers, the best sniper rifles, the best optic
    systems, the best propellants ?

    These were ALL developed and continue to be developed not by the Military - but by the private sector; competitive shooting, hunting

    Hell man, the 3 greatest automatic weapons syatems of all time were ALL invented by who?

    Sure as hell weren't the fucking Gubmint baby !

  11. no 2:50, you just make stupid comments using screwed up logic.

    "You get pulled over or you start to think you're a tough guy with a gun and things happen"

    That goes against the "Just carry concealed and shut up." As in it only comes out to defend you or your loved ones. Unless you get pulled over by someone intent on deadly harm then license and registration is all you need to worry about.

  12. To the second poster, that is comedical because it is well established how much republicans hate "civil liberties" and just look how fascist the Bush regime was. Now that is not to say the Obama administration will be any better. By all measures it appears to be furthering along policies enacted during shrubs era of reign. Has anyone noticed that the Coast Guard has gained military powers and reserves the right to try any civilian by tribunal?

  13. The US civilian population is more heavily armed and outnumber the military 10:1 don't they ?
    Despite the military personnel swing to align with the civilian population in the coming crash, the military would have a very tough time if they had to fight an organised civilian uprising methinks.
    Little wonder then that if anyone can be deemed to not be a fine upstanding model citizen that they would be denied the privilege of owning a gun - just like the rest of the world now...
    I'm in Australia and I'd love to own an MP5SD, but the chances are ZERO. Soon there will be a total ban on gun ownership worldwide as the elite rush to protect themselves against the inevitable massive civilian rebellion and witch-hunts. The USA concepts of "right to bear arms" is about be become worthless and irrelevant.

  14. That's a nice little theroy there Aussie.

    EXACTLY how do YOU propose to extract in excess of 300 MILLION small arms ( that "they" know of)
    from a population in which over 60% says - "come for my guns and you'll be the first casualty".

    That is just ONE of a long, long list of why it will NOT happen in the USA.

    " IF you think hunting a man is tough - try the wild turkey" SPCLFRC #17 Patrick MacMahon - USMC sniper - retired

    So 'Cmon - come get 'em - I double dare you.

    Ain't no one in the world that has the balls

    Including you


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