Wednesday, August 19, 2009

Karl Denninger: Depression Assured? Maybe. (Swine Flu)


First, we will have an economic depression. If the CAR, or "attack rate" (the percentage of people in the population) who get the flu is in the typical range of 40-60% of the population, then a CFR of 2-3% means one million or more dead Americans this fall and winter, or more succinctly, somewhere around one in a hundred. If your kid goes to school with 1,000 other people, 10 of them will die (on average.)

This sort of disruption in the economy, given where it is now, guarantees a contraction of GDP of 10% or more from the top, which is the definition of economic depression. We can argue about "how bad of a depression" later.

Second, if these numbers are anywhere close to reality the entire US medical care system will effectively collapse. We do not have 10% of the medical infrastructure necessary to treat 1 million Americans presenting to hospitals over a 2-3 month time frame with critical (and ultimately terminal!) symptoms, nor can we possibly treat the ten times greater count of people who will present to a hospital with what look to be critical symptoms but ultimately survive.

If these numbers are anywhere close to accurate the quality of medical care available in The United States will almost instant return to 1950s-style medicine - that is, little more than aspirin and perhaps some antibiotics for secondary bacterial infections, plus careful observation.
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28 comments:

  1. Elderberries prevent flu virus from invading host cells.

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  2. The CFR seems a bit high, but this is the CDC making the prediction, so it should be taken seriously. Perhaps they are expecting a slightly mutated virus. The vaccine will be much too late (November, from last I heard). In addition to the deaths, the lost work days will also damage the economy. The current debate over healthcare is quite laughable considering that the system has a poor prognosis for surviving the winter. That said, we could get very lucky in all of this.

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  3. Do you mean the slightly mutated virus in the 'vaccine' they plan on forcing you to take along with some Squalene for good measure to make sure if you do survive the 'vaccine' you'll have permanent nerve damage and gulf war syndrome?

    Do you mean that slightly mutated virus or perhaps the one in the chemtrails they'll be spraying later this year?

    Which virus do you mean?

    Or do you mean the virus of ignorance in general?

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  4. I posted, here, a scientist that spoke about the virus and its implications. He mentioned squalene and oil based mixtures that gives you... the comment above

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  5. Disagree with the statement we do not have the medical infrastructure. I know my instructor in RN class stated the hospitals practice for a terrorist attack. We also have commercial buildings and hotels standing empty after the real estate crash. (I've alwasy thought we have MORE than enough roof-covered structures in the US so that we should not have any homeless, but that's another story conservatives don't want to hear.)

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  6. If you have to take the vaccine for some god-awful reason get a bunch of Selenium and take it. The Selenium removes Mercury from your body. You can also get some Benzonite Clay which will detox your body of heavy metals.

    High quality Coconut Oil from Tropical traditions will also cleanse your body and make your immune system VERY strong so you will not get sick. Take cod liver oil for its high Vitamin A and D content.

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  7. Coffins AKA "grave liners" stacked up to 500,000+ in the field in GA.

    600 plus FEMA Detention Camps.

    but but "thats all BS from the tin foil hat wearers, right?" errr uhhhh oh.

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  8. ""

    oh good grief -- if you own a bank would you want a bunch of homeless people living in YOUR empty houses that you intend to re-sell to individuals who may actually be able to not only use them but pay for them?

    Here's something "liberal" statists never like to hear - stuff costs money. Period. Real people have to make real money to live and pay for things. Deal with it.

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  9. That was to the anon poster at 6:07

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  10. Nice to see people know about vaccines. If you want to be pumped full of mercury, Squalene, mass estrogen, detergents, and hormones by all means take one. Yes, government is there to help you once again like they were when they killed off a lot of people in '71.

    Have the above mentioned items Selenium and Benzonte Clay on hand. Also, look into Chelation. Pronounced KEE-LAY-SHON. Chelation will remove metals and toxins from the body and if you are FORCED to take a vaccine you can immediately go to work on the metal/poisons they pumped into you. (Also good for any child unfortunate to be on their way to autism thanks to vaccines).

    Go to a website such a Cardio Renew. What is so sad is that you must prepare to be poisoned. This is what you must do if the vaccine is forced on you.

    Let's say the vaccine has not been forced on you, but you want protection from a rampaging pandemic/epidemic. Research MMS Miracle water. It will kill any virus in the body even the worse such as Malaria in a matter of hours. Proven, research it. Pennies a day. Get some now. 75,000 cases of Malaria wiped out in 4-8 hours doesn't lie. Of course, the wonderful people at the FDA can't have you knowing about such things.

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  11. Real people need jobs so they can make money so they can purchase items from the BANKS WHO OWN EVERYTHING.

    Then again perhaps the banks have decided that not every one is entitled to a survival niche.

    In that case any and all means towards survival is both justified and mandated.

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  12. Thanks for the information on selenium, benzonite clay and cod liver oil. It very well be a life saver.

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  13. Meant to say it may very well be a life saver.

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  14. There will be plenty of buildings to inhabit. Just wait til more retail and commercial real estate goes under. We can all live in malls and burn carpet for warmth. We could also use vinyl car interiors to make clothing (and shields?) once cars are no longer useful except as permaculture beds. Don't worry Misognonymous, I will let you have some of my tomatoes if you behave.

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  15. DT don't forget to get some sort of good water filter. Something like a Doulton or Berkey and get some additional filters and ones that will filter out fluoride and other nasty chemicals in our water.

    I started reading a book today called "Detoxify or Die" by Sherry Rogers M.D. I read that a normal city has 500 chemicals in its water supply alone. Plus whatever is in the air and the food plus all the containers the food/water is stored in. It's pretty horrific so far...just one more way in which we are being killed.

    DT you can do a search for "Natural News" which is a great organic health site. Lots of information about detoxing and getting ready if you have to take any vaccine.

    Oh yeah one more thing. The elites may dump vaccines into the water supply so having a top notch filtration unit is vital. We can go quite a few days without food but we will day in a few days from lack of water.

    I figure the vaccines will be pushed on us. It's not like our CONgressmen actually listen to us. For each CONgressman there are six(6!) health lobbyists pumping fists full of dollars into our elected officials pockets.

    I don't know whether to rage or burst into tears.

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  16. Meant to post this in my last post....

    Here is the link to information about the clay that has been mentioned above:

    www.aboutclay.com/index.htm

    It's bentonite clay...I had a friend who cured her young son of Autism using detox clay and eating a certain diet. Her son was fine until he received a certain set of shots. After the shots he was autistic...

    bastards.

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  17. I have a friend who is a member of an Autism society and I talked to her about the vaccines. I regret it because I am sure she was more comfortable believing her two little boys with austism got it randomly.

    They both got the full battery of shots and were fine beforehand and then started showing symptoms of trouble a week after the shots.

    Disgusting. This is what the bastards will stoop to - killing and disabling kids. People still won't get mad.

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  18. Katadyn filters are also a good choice. Removes all the bad things that make you sick. Hand, portable. You could literally drink puddle water, or out of a river. For a cheap option, there are many liter-type bottles that have the filter element built-in that do very well for 50 or so refills.

    I wouldn't worry about super-fancy reverse osmosis or other filters that can filter out flouride. Overkill for this late in the game.

    Keep 2-3 gallons of (unscented, no additive) bleach handy for water purification also. Rotate them every 90 days. Target has them for $1.30 a gallon. A half dozen drops of bleach in a quart bottle will kill everything. Don't be afraid of bleach - you have been drinking it your whole life.

    Some people are ultra sensitive about what they drink taste-wise so for those I recommend an additive such as Purodene. It is used for water storage tanks in buses, etc. Actually kills everything bleach will, but improves the taste as well.

    If you store water in food grade containers, it is good for a year, maybe two under ideal conditions. Add Purodene or a similar additive and the water will be drinkable for five years.

    Those that don't live near a creek or some other fairly clean water source need to store water now.

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  19. Another trick when treating water in a jar or anything in a screw top container. Once you add the bleach or other purifier, only screw on the lid half way and shake. Let the treated water seep out onto the threads, etc. An old trick. If you don't do that, enough baddies will sit on the edges waiting for you to take your drink. Remember, it takes just a smear of something bad to make you very sick.

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  20. Can't afford gold and silver? Not even enough cash now to store up any food? Want to have something to trade when SHTF? Store water. Save every single plastic bottle you would normally recycle or throw away in order to distribute and trade that water. If you have clean water for trade you will be king. No joke.
    Sounds like a joke, I know.

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  21. Fried green tomatoes

    and hot sex.

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  22. Don't store water in plastic bottles unless you check which grade of plastic the bottle is. Plastic bottles will leak Bisphenol-A into the water which is something you don't want to drink.

    Look on the bottom of the plastic bottle to see which grade it is. If the number is 2, 4 or 5 you are safe. Anything else and you should throw the bottle away.

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  23. Yes. Food grade buckets with lids are usually available for free from grocery stores and bakeries. They are fine for water storage. Craigslist will have what you need also.

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  24. Can someone define CAR and CFR for me? I'm getting prepared for homeschooling if I have to. None of those shots for MY kids! Hubby worked in Iraq in 04 and got some of the last anthrax shots given -- they contained squalene. He left a healthy 40 year old man, came back with Crohn's disease.

    My son has autism -- but it is definetly genetic in our case!

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  25. You may want to try some detoxing with your son it could still remove the autism. Worth a shot unless you've already tried it.

    There are support groups online if you search I'm sure you can talk to people who have 'cured' their childrens autism through detox and diet.

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  26. Thanks DH, I'll probably look into that clay. We have DS on a gluten free diet which helps tremendously. Kiddo is very high functioning, As and Bs in mainstream school, bowls and plays the trombone.

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  27. 2:10 - I am so sorry for your husband. Squalene. This is what people are going to be lining up to have injected into themselves this fall. Bastards.

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  28. Sorry to say, autism existed, not defined until the 20th century and definitely increased many fold by some environmental factor. (My bet the themerasol in vaccines or, more likely, the awful vaccine load itself.) Before it was named, those with Aspergers or Autism were simply "retarded", "odd", "mute" or maybe the crazy uncle in the attic.

    Whichever, all I can see is a preponderance of autistic traits in both sides of the family going back at least 4 generations including late talking, pacing, sever social inappropriateness, texture issues. On the plus side, a lot of odd intelligent types like engineers, programmers, artists and the like.

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