Saturday, October 16, 2010

What's The War On Terror Really About?

Does anyone remember the “cakewalk war” that would last six weeks, cost $50-$60 billion, and be paid for out of Iraqi oil revenues?
Does anyone remember that White House economist Lawrence Lindsey was fired by Dubya because Lindsey estimated that the Iraq war could cost as much as $200 billion?
Lindsey was fired for over-estimating the cost of a war that, according to Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, has cost 15 times more than Lindsey estimated. And the US still has 50,000 troops in Iraq.
Does anyone remember that just prior to the US invasion of Iraq, the US government declared victory over the Taliban in Afghanistan?
Does anyone remember that the reason Dubya gave for invading Iraq was Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, weapons that the US government knew did not exist?
Are Americans aware that the same neoconservarives who made these fantastic mistakes, or told these fabulous lies, are still in control of the government in Washington?
The “war on terror” is now in its tenth year. What is it really all about?
The bottom line answer is that the “war on terror” is about creating real terrorists. The US government desperately needs real terrorists in order to justify its expansion of its wars against Muslim countries and to keep the American people sufficiently fearful that they continue to accept the police state that provides “security from terrorists,” but not from the government that has discarded civil liberties.

20 comments:

  1. Well said by Dr Roberts, a credible and knowledgeable source. If you continue to live in the matix and do not believe Dr Roberts, I suggest reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man", by John Perkins.

    Unfortunately, around 90% of Americans continue to live in the matrix; stupefied, idiotic, mind controlled tv addicted sheeple slaves who believe anything and everything their tv's tell them. And you think change is coming with the upcoming Republicrat victory in congress? Ha Ha Ha, guess again. The last time we had "Real Change", an illegal emigrant was elected president by the name of Barry Soetoro, and boy have we had real change....

    The ending of this story is coming soon, if it is possible to survive the upcoming economic collapse which has already begun and the on going US police state, better stock up on gold and silver (it's still a good buy, especially silver), storable food, guns and lots of ammo, water filters, water storage and other survival items. When there is no electricity and no food, the sheeple slaves may go berserk, after all, they will not have their tv's.

    The beginning of the end is near...

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  2. 6:18 I LIKE YOUR ENTHUSIASM!!! YES, WE ARE SO SCREWED? THE ONES THAT DIE, ARE THE "LUCKY ONES"!

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  3. I don't watch tv and don't read mainstream media. I still see that muslims are attacking all the countries around the world- from China to the US. They routinely declare they are going to take over the West and have taken over some european countries. I guess all that means nothing- knowing this makes me a stupid sheep living in the matrix?

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  4. Let me suggest a different perspective.

    There are Islamic Radicals, there is no denying their existence unless you're the kind that denies the Jewish Holocaust. Islamic Fascism and Extremism is very real just like the KKK. (The KKK is pretty much an irrelevant group but they were once 20 million strong).

    Islamic Radicals and Muslim terror networks are growing daily. This is not a CIA made fantasy to invade other countries. Indonesia is the largest Muslim populated country but we didn't invade them. We instead invaded Iraq which is not even half Muslim! Arab yes, Muslim no.

    The people are way better off than they were before we went (in both places). Despite this reality check to those denying there being Muslim terrorists, it is still strange as to why we invaded those two countries and not something else.

    For those saying we needed oil that's why we went, why has gas not gone done since the wars? If we think we can invade everyone else just for power why would we not go into Iran yet? We'd take them overnight with our military technology, their military is even less developed than Suddam's was.

    That being true, we aren't there for humanitarian purposes either. We would have gone into various African countries instead if we were trying to better people's lives. X-ray cameras from satelites can do anything and see anything. We would have known if we wanted to that Suddam didn't have nuclear weapons being made. Yet we allow Iran and NK to continue building them.

    We can know anything we want to with such gadgets but the FBI doesn't seem to ever stop certain crimes. They investigate a right-wing militia group but don't investigate Hamas agents working on nukes in their own country.

    I don't believe there is a conspiracy either way. The two most general conspiracies are:

    1) America is being destroyed deliberately by inside forces and is urged by the outside.

    2) The USA, Britain, and Israel control sophisticated media that keeps people thinking things are happening everywhere else that really aren't.

    I believe we are approaching chaos. Entropy increases with time, so far this has never been disproven in physics. Why would we as electromagnetic beings be exempt from the laws of physics of any kind just because our minds can't comprehend it?

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  5. Yes, 9:45, it sure does. At least until you stop repeating the propaganda you hear in the mainstream media around you and start reading between the lines. The blind people on the right will claim that the last 10 years are entirely due to Obama's presidency in the last 1.5 years. The blind people on the left will conclude it is Obama who will get us out of this mess. Neither of them, of course, are right. Time for everyone to wake up and smell the coffee and stop acting like their party will save them.

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  6. 9:43 & 12:25, are you working overtime or are you now working 24 hour shifts? Not too long ago, the disinfo agents were not around on week-ends, apparently that has changed. After all, the govt has lots & lots of $$, right?

    What will you do when the dollar collapses? Who is going to pay you for your propaganda?

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  7. If you were paying attention you will also remember that in the runup to the Iraq war China, Russia, France, Germany and a handfull of other countries delayed the invasion using stalling tactics in the UN. There were numerous discoveries of Russia driving convoys of "WMD's" or who knows what into Syria. They flew many cargo planes into Iraq and removed WMD's. In fact during the invasion our army bumped into a convoy of Russian trucks protected by Russian Spetsnaz and our troops were told to back down and let them pass. Later the Russians claimed that they were Russian diplomats leaving the country LOL. So, yes many months after telegraphing our intent to invade and "find" the WMD's and after many months of Russia and Hezbola removing the WMD's lo and behold when we got there sure enough most of the WMD's were gone! Who would have thought...

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  8. Interesting, but you are putting Germany and France into the same camp as China and Russia, as if they all conspired together to protect Iraq's weapons, then later turned around only to contribute forces to the war against them? Believe it or not there were other, more sensible countries who did not want to get entangled in a meaningless war. Always question the motives of those who demand war, and particularly those who spread it aruond the world globally, like our cowardly leaders.

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  9. 12:25
    1) America is being destroyed deliberately by inside forces and is urged by the outside.

    No matter what anyone else thinks, I believe this to be true. If the people inside American who hate this country ever really unite, god help us! Our own politicians are working against us each and everyday; every piece of legislation is used to bring us closer to slavery.

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  10. The left and right gatekeepers of the imperialist ‘Matrix” are not stupid, when caught out on and exposed for obvious past nonsense will admit “mistakes” and applaud your cleverness in seeing through their lies by looking at the actual real world evidence and using reason and logic.
    They will agree with you as your reasonable concerned friend and fellow critic in order to justify the current lies and plans as “reasonable”
    For example we can all agree that WMD in Iraq was fraud right ? Neo-con nonsense !
    We fought the wrong war any reasonable person can see that ,we should have used pre-emtive war against the real enemy .
    Says the Gatekeeper of reason and logic
    12.45
    says and note well this is NOT “a CIA fantasy”
    “Let me suggest a different perspective.”

    “Different”?
    The Muslim terrorists and the “real” WMD terrorist threats you are well aware of as told by the MSM , Gates on the “right ‘ and Neo con Barry on the left.
    Real American as apple pie truth .On the WMD and real Muslim terrorist threats to American apple pie.

    “Islamic Radicals and Muslim terror networks are growing daily. This is not a CIA made fantasy to invade other countries…

    We would have known if we wanted to that Suddam didn't have nuclear weapons being made. Yet we allow Iran and NK to continue building them.

    We can know anything we want to with such gadgets but the FBI doesn't seem to ever stop certain crimes. They investigate a right-wing militia group but don't investigate Hamas agents working on nukes in their own country.
    The hamas and Iran has the real WMD
    .Hamas has got some nasty backyard basement labs!

    This is a "different Perspective" than the CIA Bary Gates and the MSM ???

    Now what other country also has this NEO con CIA world view for warmaking against “real”WMD and muslim terrorists, Mr “reasonable” Gatekeeper of the imperialist 'matrix?

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  11. Any time I read Neocon in an article, alarm bells go off...

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  12. That's because you are either a neo-con or you are being conned by one.

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  13. People who are used to living in caves and as nomads scratching out their next meal will have the same standard of living when the world economies collapse. One exception is that the bad guys (who ever they are) will not have as much money to travel and buy weapons. So, really what difference will really make in a few months.

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  14. 9.55
    9:55
    The only difference may be that a lot of arrogant First world US people that used to derive a lot of their incomes that they were able to spend on imported cheap labor goodies (who ever they are )may find themselves unemployed ,had their house foreclosed on ,living on foodstamps like nomads on the St, desperately seeking a cave for rent free shelter at the point of a gun.
    Mexico might be a better bet than the US the people their appear less culturaly arrogant and less racist?

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  15. We did know Saddam was building nukes. He had 550 tons of yellow cake uranium when we invaded. He had an enormous underground facility with one purpose only to enrich the uranium to weapons grade. This is fact. It was discovered during the invasion.

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  16. Wow.

    I am 12:25. After reading 8:31 and 7:02 I am convinced that Alex Jones and David Icke fans are ignorant.

    8:31, I am a government agent because I acknowledge that there are Islamic Radicals in this world? I'm sure there is no such thing as the KKK then, there never was. There was no such thing as the Holocaust either.

    I am an Israeli commando as a matter of fact. My job is to make you think Muslims are blowing up buildings so you will want to invade their countries. You nailed it.

    7:02,

    Perhaps if you actually read my post you'd notice that I was describing both the Conservative view and Liberal view. I don't like either but you somehow think I was ranting about how we need to invade Iran.

    Call me stupid... you can't even type a coherent sentence. Moron. Let alone read a whole paragraph and notice it contains parallel arguments. I didn't sway either way. I gave both sides of the argument unlike you with your incredibly biased, parochial range of knowledge. Go read some more bullshit typed up by uncouthed new agers on the internet.

    And by the way, I read Children of the Matrix. I was 18 when I read it 5 years ago and believed everything said in it. I went as far as thinking the stars were military bases. Good thing I took a different trajectory with my mind unlike you.

    Remember, this conversation never happened...

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  17. Anonymous said...
    "We did know Saddam was building nukes. He had 550 tons of yellow cake uranium when we invaded. He had an enormous underground facility with one purpose only to enrich the uranium to weapons grade. This is fact. It was discovered during the invasion. "
    October 18, 2010 7:19 AM

    Classic
    "LOL ,good one "says 11:53

    True dat .
    Real old gems of CIA propaganda.

    'these are Facts " about uranium that "we" all know is true as it was once reported in the MSM and a State of the Nation speech by Bush.
    Powel even displayed an example vial of Anthrax at the UN just like saddam was preparing to use against America. Of course No WMD were actualy found in Iraq but...LOL
    Classics!
    Everyone else knows now that Bush and Cheyney are now proven liers .
    But ,you bushwhaked any critisism of your religious war ant-muslim claims with re-run assertion of the old Bush "facts" with fake uranium cake icing on top.

    Only neocons And now the Obamaites
    still beleive and push these kind of worn out exposed as lies CIA created "facts" as "facts".
    But tell us again about the secret nuclear bomb labs in Gaza threatening America and Isreal and the one about the dead Bin ladin financing Muslim Irans nuclear bombs.
    LOL,good one.

    And Tell us again about 19 arabs with box knives and superpowers denying the laws of physics on 9.11 too.
    Lol ,Classic !good one!
    These are classics ,the old stock in trade of neocon logic and reason in the great Bush religious anti-muslim crusade tradition and are always worth a good laugh.
    LOL .Good ones!
    Some ,however are now seeking truth from facts, not from classical propaganda and religious paranoid story telling.

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  18. Russia and Chine were indeed the biggest suppliers to Saddam. They supplied the weapons, the raw materials for his WMD program, and Russia supplied the actual biological and chemical WMD's. France and Germany sold Saddam the advanced technical equipment used to weaponize the biological material and to manufacture the WMD's. France sold Saddam fighter jets and the associated weaponry.

    The Yellow cake uranium was not discovered by American forces it was discovered by a NGO group that went into Iraq. This group knew what it was and brought it to the attention of the military who first guarded it then removed it. It was kept quiet but not secret. The NGO originally talked about it because they actually thought it made the U.S. look bad since the material was openly available for anyone to walk away with. They even flagged down some news people following the invasion forces and showed them what they found. I can remember seeing it on TV and the blue barrels of yellow cake and the stuff spilled on the ground. In fact Iraqi citizens from the local town had dumped some of the drums of yellowcake out of the barrels so they could use the barrels for drinking water. After the NGO figured out that the discovery of the yellow cake didn't really embarrass the U.S. but in fact supported the contention that Saddam had a nuclear program they decided to say no more about it. But the information is available and in fact was on the TV.

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  19. LOL, more Good ones !
    I saw these "facts" on the ground on MSM TV too .

    I think it was right after an "American Survivor" episode on at the time.

    The other news story of the night may have been Cheney "Outing" and destroying the carreer of CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose husband had investigated the yellow cake story -and spupidly- delivered the honest but "wrong "conclusion in wartime .
    Amongst all the other Great American war stories.

    Some say the first casualty of war is the truth as it gets lost in all the war propaganda.
    I wouldnt know about that ,I only what I too seen with my own eyes on TV.

    But Good one!

    So, as you say:
    "But the information is available and in fact was on the TV."

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