Saturday, May 21, 2011

Tucson SWAT team defends shooting Iraq War vet Marine 60 times

A Tucson, Ariz., SWAT team defends shooting an Iraq War veteran 60 times during a drug raid, although it declines to say whether it found any drugs in the house and has had to retract its claim that the veteran shot first.

And the Pima County sheriff scolded the media for "questioning the legality" of the shooting.

Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son's bedroom window.

"She saw a man pointing at her with a gun," said Reyna Ortiz, 29, a relative who is caring for Vanessa and her children. Ortiz said Vanessa Guerena yelled, "Don't shoot! I have a baby!"

Vanessa Guerena thought the gunman might be part of a home invasion -- especially because two members of her sister-in-law's family, Cynthia and Manny Orozco, were killed last year in their Tucson home, her lawyer, Chris Scileppi, said. She shouted for her husband in the next room, and he woke up and told his wife to hide in the closet with the child, Joel, 4.

Guerena grabbed his assault rifle and was pointing it at the SWAT team, which was trying to serve a narcotics search warrant as part of a multi-house drug crackdown, when the team broke down the door. At first the Pima County Sheriff's Office said that Guerena fired first, but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. "The safety was on and he could not fire," according to the sheriff's statement.

SWAT team members fired 71 times and hit Guerena 60 times, police said.

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20 comments:

  1. Moral of the story? Don't fight for your country you might get killed at home?

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  2. TIME TO LOCK AND LOAD

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  3. A foreign observer notes the “Hispanic” or Mexican ancestor type name of this US Marine Vet ,his family and his former master sergeant in Iraq.
    Blacks and ‘Hispanics” form a very large proportion of those Americans “fighting for American Freedoms ”in OTHER countries.
    But this Vet Only got Bin Laden style “summarary execution” style justice in America.
    Wow !
    He was treated like an Iraqi ar an Afghani "suspect" might be treated by a Marine kicking in doors in other countries !

    The “lawyer”, or the spin doctor disinformation guy ,representing the Swat team and justifying the American summary “justice” system only points to the fact that this Veteran actually had a gun and body armor at home ,supposedly an American right and that amongst the printed matter found in the home after he was killed was a ‘photo” perhaps in a newspaper story or crime story book, Who knows ?

    Perhaps later they will even be able to find a photo in a book or newspaper of Bin Laden the “patron saint" of terrorism too!

    But, not even a captured Porn story yet ?

    Mike Storie, a lawyer for the SWAT team, said at a press conference Thursday that weapons and body armor were found in the home as well as a photo of Jesus Malverde, who Storie called a "patron saint drug runner," according to KGUN.

    But, not even captured Porn story ?

    As for a legal warrant to search his house, well it appears to have been be a “fishing expedition” a suspicion type warrant to search MULTIPLE houses, a block or street ,who knows?

    ..."the SWAT team, which was trying to serve a narcotics search warrant as part of a multi-house drug crackdown, when the team broke down the door. At first the Pima County Sheriff's Office said that Guerena fired first, but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. "The safety was on and he could not fire," according to the sheriff's statement.

    An investigation will no doubt be held to reassure Americans that the killing was legaly justified and the SWAT team acted according to current standards of best practices for open ended MULTIPLE warrent door kicking home invasions in minority areas in AmeriKa .

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  4. The media likes to throw around the word "assault rifle" a lot. When it's they talk about the identical SWAT teams guns, it's called a rifle or an m-4 or m-16.

    It's like the anti-terrorist says on YouTube: "When the government purchases large quantities of food, they call it stockpiling. When the people do the same thing, the government calls it hoarding."

    -Not Sam

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  5. Despite the usual stories promoted by some on this websites of lazy 'hispanic'americans living on welfare exploiting America ,"stealing" American jobs etc.

    Everyday reality may be different than their propaganda and racial stereotyping?

    This Guy was not only one of the many "Hispanic" American war Vets but now a productive worker too.

    "Jose Guerena, 26, died the morning of May 5. He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine "

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  6. I have to wonder if incidents such as these are caused by the lowered standards to become a police officer these days. You used to have to be a high school graduate and some college was preferred. Now you don't even have to be a HS graduate and the mental test is geared lower than 12th grade level so poorly educated minorities will not be discriminated against. Sadly, that hurts the whole force in my opinion.

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  7. It's funny, the govt ships in the druts with the help of the cia, from south america, afghanistan and elsewhere, they put in out to their dealers, who they let operate, then let other agencies go wild and kill for the drugs they ship in, Nazi germany here we come.

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  8. Is this really the case 7.46?

    ..."You used to have to be a high school graduate and some college was preferred. Now you don't even have to be a HS graduate"

    Or are you just floating a defense of the 'good cops"at the top .the higher educated officers in command of "badly educated" police as a distraction?

    What are the real, not your imaginary qualifications ,for police in the city of Tucson?

    These Guys were just obeying orders
    FROM THE TOP
    to kick in doors without proper warrants ,to terrorize people in their beds without cause ,naturaly at the mere sight of a gun or even out of fear of the mere potential of a n armed resident trying to protect his house, family and property from home invasion, they let fly a fusilade just to protect themselves.

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  9. They always seem to do it in groups of 12 or so... What need to do is even the score of the LEO's in these no-knock raids. Shit like this has to stop! The kid from Philly harassed for open-carrying etc... All of us former Afghan-Iraq vets need to wake up and smell the coffee and realize our greatest danger is not Al Qaeda, it is US law enforcement!! Go after their asses with deliberate ambushes in our own groups of 12... See how they like it?

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  10. the plan of those AT THE TOP currently looting american middle class assets in the debt crisis /collapse of the ponzi economy is to create confusion and internal fighting between ordinary Americans and particularly along racial lines.And then to create a force to restore order!
    The lower level police in america are not the enemy.

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  11. Germany 1936, with better systems?

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  12. Safety on? Not going to defend yourself like that.

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  13. I'm sure this Marine was taught to ALWAYS keep the safety on until the moment he was ready to fire the weapon.

    These cops were told before hand that this would be a high risk warrant service and no doubt they were scared. The moment one of these cops saw the home owner pointing an AR-15 at them, he instantly fired and all the others fired as a reflex action.

    As I see it, the home owner did nothing wrong and the cops overreacted.

    I am a former cop. I say the cops phucked up big time.

    They should have known the "suspect" had a graveyard shift job and was a day sleeper. They should have known if the "suspect" had a dog in the back yard. If no dog, they could have quietly surrounded the house, with their cars down the street and had a "Delivery Service" van and driver (cop) go to the door and ring the bell. The "suspect's" wife would have answered the door and would then be told by the "Delivery Driver" that her husband would need to personally sign for a package. She would have called him to the door and he would have been arrested without incident.

    This Pima County Sheriff's office is in deep caca. It will not go well for them, especially if this guy was totally innocent and not part of a home invasion crew.

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  14. the cops in this country are no different than nazi ss, this is no longer the america we grew up in, that is gone forever,

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  15. The FPS video games are working. Carefully trained to unload their ammo with extreme vengeance... and feel absolutely nothing, afterwards... except that you want more.

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  16. Notice how the big brave cops always go for soft targets. When SHTF they will disappear faster than a New Orleans cop during a hurricane.

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  17. Being a vet doesn't mean shit anymore. They come to the armed forces for the money and citizenship which are dangled in front of them by our government.

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  18. I love all the ignoramuses comparing to Nazi Germany. It's a soviet system you fuckwits.

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  19. Nice shooting 60 hits out of 71 shots ( 90% ) practice makes perfect. Hey they were only doing thier job, it was legal. Orders is orders like in Germany 1936 & those guys were high school educated too, got to make the USA, I mean Germany safe,,I was just doing my job ( u understand right ),,, of course the USA, I mean Germany, did this after they took thier rifles opps I mean assult rifles from those mean old hateful gun carrying US citizens I meant Jews. System of dearming, system of search & destroy or sweep and clear....... got to keep us safe. One day they will show up at your door too.

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  20. 754 is the ignoramus, he does not even know the tsa is the modern day brown shirts and that fema camps are like nazi concentration camps, what a douche!

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