Saturday, March 12, 2011

Japan Nuclear Plant Conditions Worsening, local media reports

The Kyodo news agency says the cooling system has failed at three reactors at a nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture in northeastern Japan and that the coolant water's temperature has reached boiling level.

Conditions appear to be worsening at a nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture in northeastern Japan, according to local media.

The Kyodo news agency reported that the cooling system has failed at three reactors of Fukushima No. 2 nuclear power plant. The coolant water's temperature had reached boiling temperature, the agency reported, citing the power plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power.

The cooling system failure at the No. 2 power plant came after officials were already troubled by the failure of the emergency cooling system at the Fukushima No. 1 plant, which officials feared could cause a meltdown.


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  3. O.K.
    1.48 give us the results of your own brilliant personal 'research" to expose this Hoaxer.

    Prove your contrary assertion with some real facts .

    Or do you only do your own personal research by wanking to the trollers tune of any and all "Conspiracy theory" is Hoax, hoax, hoax wank, wank, wank ".

  4. I know little about nuclear plants but even so I can try and apply a little logical analysisto the calming propaganda being circulated..

    On Saturday, an explosion blew off the roof and upper walls of the building housing the facility's No. 1 reactor, stirring alarm over a possible major radiation release, although the government later said the explosion had not affected the reactor's core vessel and that only a small amount of radiation had been released.
    Bloomberg reports :
    ‘Three Mile Island
    Inadequate cooling of the reactor core may lead to a meltdown, the most dangerous kind of nuclear power accident because of the threat of radiation releases, according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The 1979 partial meltdown at Three Mile Island reactor in Pennsylvania failed to breach the containment building, according to the commission. “

    It was claimed at first ,that a controlled release of a little steam/vapor /coolant could relieve pressure in the overheating heating nuclear core of the plants, releasing only a “little” radioactive material .
    Now the roof of the outer containing building structure surrounding the pressurized nuclear core at one nuclear reactor has been blown right off .

    What pressure could have caused that outer building explosion ?
    It could only happen if the pressure of the inner pressurized core vessel of the reactor was already breached in at least a partial and continuing uncontrollable pressure meltdown .

    Otherwise where did that uncontrollable explosive force inside of the outer building shell casing for the cores destruction come from ?

    The laws of Physics apply after all and we cannot blame the use by an Al Ciaduh using aviation fuel with the power of hidden explosives to destroy buildings ,destroying this building too.

    This outer building shell was said to be the final defense to prevent widespread release of radioactive material if the core overheated as happened at Chernobyl ,but not at Three mile Island.

    With the apparent breach of the inner core walls the overheating core cannot be cooled anymore with coolant pumped under necessary pressure .
    Therefore the meltdown is real and ongoing at at least one nuclear reactor
    that cannot be apparently be contoled and any radiation release without that outer protective building shell will resemble the Chernobyl disaster not Three Mile Island .

    All the rest is appears to be just propaganda to prevent mass panic.
    Just as the Soviets tried to hide the extent of the damage at Chernobyl.
    But the government has evacuated 300,000 people from their homes already.
    Only “May”?
    “Japan Reactor Fuel Rods May Have Begun to Melt, Atomic Safety Agency Said today”

    Pumping sea water over the core might give off a radioactive steam into the atmosphere but cannot be sufficient to cool the core to prevent further meltdown from continuing And as there is now no longer an outer cover building to hold back the widespread radiation dispersion , we may be looking at Chernoby 2 or even Chenobyl 2 plus 3 and 4 as a at least 3 other nuclear plants are in big possible meltdown trouble too.

    It depends on the winds that where all that radiation may finish up.

    But,in which direction do the usual prevailing winds in the world and the Jetsteam flow to America?

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  6. I found this in another thread:

    "Here's the disclaimer that came with the map:
    Map reportedly created by Australian Radiation Services that shows how -- in the event of a massive radiation release -- fallout from nuclear reactors in northeastern Japan will be carried by the jetstream to the West Coast of the United States. The wind directions of this map are correct -- but note that the radiation levels are impossible based on what is known about the situation. Also there is no time rate given for the dosage; usually rads would be per hour, but those numbers per hour are more like what someone would have experienced at ground zero at Chernobyl.
    . . . so ya. You nailed it. It may be the author of the map intended to show how many rads would fall over a very long period (e.g. 1 rad per hour for 750 hours)"

  7. I will belabor you with this little ditty: Seems to me I was cruising thru one of the sub articles yesterday pertaining to this radioactive cloud drifting toward North America (this of course was a supposed scenario in case the worst happened).The map basically showed this cloud hitting Canada first, covering Vancouver island, part of mainland BC, then oddly enough dipping down antinodal fashion just below the 49th parallel into the US and heading due east-completely missing Canada altogether until around Nova Scotia or so where it tilted back up towards Canada and eastward ho. It looked odd almost entirely missing Canada and almost wholly slicing along the US below the 49th parallel. The clincher here is evidentally this is the path of the trade winds-just below the border. So if any of you want to have a look back, I won`t bore you any longer on this (conjectural) map.

  8. 5.13
    now people 7.00 and 1.48 are posting some researched facts on what indeed may even be shown to be faked up hoax material .

    But the earlier , mere opinion or declaration of Hoax while claiming superior but unknown "researched " expert knowledge, but with no evidence given to back up that assertion ,was just posting worthless hot air.

  9. Uh,sorry, I meant JET STREAM-not TRADEWINDS....

  10. As far as I know, regarding the explosion at the plant, it is said to be caused be HYDROGEN. Going by a close up of the video it looks fairly powerful. I wonder how any structure within that explosion could have resisted being compromised. Are all 5 of these reactors slow fission reactors? What does this mean ultimately in terms of radiation pollution and overall catastrophe level?

  11. 7:52- You may be right. If you view it over and over again you can see on the left side an initial concussive shot @60-70 degrees. It is immediately ballistic (speed of sound+) as it develops a donut like smoke ring (all very quickly) It seems to me it is initiated by an ignition source (hydrogen)as it is immediately directed or concentrated. One would think an explosion due to expanding pressure alone would be slightly slower and more diffuse. Just a guess...

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  13. "Don't believe it! Radiation just doesn't have that long of a shelf-life and couldn't be that powerful when reaching the US west coast."

    Radioactive material even small minute particles actualy have a very, very long “ shelf life”, or “half life” and the levels may accumulate when absorbed by living organisms.
    Even very small amounts of for example depleted Uranium can lead to cancer and mutations of DNA that can be passed along to future generations ,even for exposed American soldiers ,not just for Iraqis or Afghanis .
    Just one small particle may be enough to finish you off.
    So it it not a question of concentrated “Power” of big immediate particle amounts ,but whether the levels of dispersion are high enough to quickly ,or even slowly accumulate to harm , for example over days weeks ,or even years to come for the millions of people and dumb American milk cows or sheeple that might be exposed .
    Whether they can read a map not.

  14. What does the intelligence of dairy cows have to do with anything?

  15. Maybe because the dumb cows may be smarter than many ‘educated” americans dumbed down by an education system created to serve the ruling elite by creating sheeple ?

    Why can’t Americans read maps?
    Miss Teen USA South Carolina 2007 with Subtitles

  16. Public schools at work. You people and your 5th grade level science are hilarious.

  17. "For the millions of people and dumb American milk cows or sheeple that might be exposed
    Whether they can read a map not. Maybe because the dumb cows may be smarter than many ‘educated” americans dumbed down by an education system created to serve the ruling elite by creating sheeple? Why can’t Americans read maps?"

    Maybe because they've been photoshopped. We can't be certain. But anyway, I dont think there is anything scientific about the predicted radiation dosage. All we know is that that is the rough direction of the trade winds. Will there be sufficient radioactice pollution to cause problems in the US? We are not sure as of yet, but it wouldnt hurt to have the potassium iodide on hand.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled cow-hating.

  18. Cows can read maps. Americans can not read maps. Let's print more money and perhaps we will all learn how to read maps. 2 + 2 the cow says moo.

  19. BTW - another Website to educate yourselves on RADIATION

    0-50 rads - No obvious short-term effects
    80-120 rads - You have a 10% chance of vomiting and experiencing nausia for a few days
    130 -170 rads - You have a 25% chance of vomiting and contracting other symptoms
    180-220 rads - You have a 50% chance of vomiting and having other severe physical effects
    270-330 rads - 20% chance of death in 6 weeks, or you will recover in a few months.
    400-500 rads - 50% chance of death
    550-750 rads - Nausia within a few hours ; no survivors
    > 1000 rads - immediate incapacitation and death within a week or less.

    GIVEN THE MAP CONCERN and the INTENSITIES Calculated (fiction or not - I advise YOU TO DO WHAT YOU THINK (not Believe) is prudent for you and your family...

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  22. Unless one can prove this map is bogus, all comments pertaining to a fake will be DELETED.

  23. "Over 350 R in a week and you have a 50% chance of death within one month. "

    Why aren't you heading on a plane to another country ASAP? Essentially the whole US and Canada is going to die according to this map.

    As another blogger said:

    "The map looks fishy even from a first glance. It was not issued with any warning, link to a regulatory organization, or press release. It was not vetted by any organization. Instead it contains the logo of "Australian Radiation Services".

    A simple search on the internet reveals that this is a small private company in Australia which offers clients services in dealing with compliance and radiation monitoring. As fas as I could tell, the handful of employees working here have no expertise in climatology, which would be needed to determine wind strength and other factors necessary to model weather patterns.

    Neither would they be expected to have any idea of what state the reactors were in (which was not already a part of the public domain). After all they are not a government regulatory agency!

    Lastly, simply googling the numbers would reveal to anyone that they are preposterously high. The total dose per person in a defined area of Europe with closest proximity to the more-serious Chernobyl explosion was predicted to be 0.5 Rads over a period of three weeks of exposure.

    The map circulating over the internet showed a ballpark number that was 6,000 times more serious that Chernobyl without any given time-period."

  24. I want to add that I actually like this site and visit it often. I probably agree with about 75% of the articles posted here and think EA is doing a good job culling alternative sources of information. Definately enough to keep my coming back but I guess I just won't comment anymore.

  25. Its unfortunate that the intelligent posters get pushed away in favor of those who dont really have much of an opinion. I agree that most of the articles are of value. But theres no reason to get personal and come down on the readership for disagreeing with the occasional one that doesnt make full sense.

  26. For what it's worth I just emailed the Australian Radiation Services, as per the address on their website, asking for clarification once and for all. Hopefully they'll respond so I don't have to actually make a phone call to Australia to ask in person.

  27. Produced by the Australian Radiation Services with a big fat logo, but no mention at all on their website?
    Very suspect.

  28. Here's the disclaimer from the australian radiation services:

    DISCLAIMER: Australian Radiation Services is aware of information about radioactive contamination being spread from the Japanese nuclear reactor incident released under the ARS logo and name. We wish to be clear that this information has not originated from ARS and as such distance ourselves from any such misinformation.

    Nice to see Economic Analyst isn't deleting further TRUTHFUL comments.

  29. Just got back from work -- as I mentioned before I emailed the company and was pleased to get a response within a few hours from a Dr. Joseph Young assuring me the map is a hoax. In the meantime they edited the frontpage of the website to include the information you posted above.
    I put this map on my Facebook page, after finding it here, and was dismayed to find out shortly thereafter that it was a hoax. I alarmed many of my friends and had to issue an apology. Upset I came here and posted the first (deleted) comment on this blog entry. In all fairness to EA I will admit I was terse and a little bit crass. I still don't think comments of dissent should be deleted but he is the owner/admin and has the right to do as he pleases. I like this site and would love to see a registration system, for those who wish to comment on the entries, so people have to, at the minimum, post under a recurring pseudonym. I'm sure, as things currently stand, he has to deal with a large amount of trolls and spammers, especially of the head-in-the-sand type.
    Anyway I'm glad this particular aspect is settled. The situation in Japan remains grave and there is much to play out in regards to the still tenuous situation at the reactors.

  30. A lesson indeed!

  31. We's all gonna dies ... we's all gonna dies!! Not. Bad news and tough sledding for the Japanese in the plant's 10 mile evac radius but rad levels less an issue than freezing homeless in the snow falling right now. Go ahead though and ingest your chemical supply store iodide and harm yourselves unnecessarily. And dump all nukes and run your cars on wind propellers. Sheesh. This place took a 9.0 and survived only to have a history bending 33 foot tsunami kill the cooling pumps power. Lessons to be learned absolutely. Hysterical reaction reducing us to candles in the dark and pawns of the Arabs won't help. Wind and solar are 20 years from any kind of rational efficiency. We better think sanely about what we do with energy that works well and can be improved now ... nuclear and natural gas. Work on alternatives but be realistic about their ultimate contributions.

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